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Eternal Life is to Live Christ - Norman Grubb

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"The time has come to affirm our humanity as well as to affirm His deity, to accept and appreciate ourselves as well as Him. The unity makes this possible, because the unity produces a spontaneity. We can now live our lives, taking for granted the adequacy which is He, the other part of us. Life cannot be lived on any level by duty or effort. Life is just living, that is all. " Norman Grubb

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In Lucifer - also in Adam: By Jacob Boehme

In Lucifer - also in Adam: By Jacob Boehme
by Nancy Gilmore on Monday, June 20, 2011 at 1:23pm
"We have in Lucifer, and also in Adam, the first man, true examples of what
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No Independent Self: by Norman Grubb - [PART ONE & PART TWO] Taken from Union Life Magazine: Posted by Nancy Gilmore


No Independent Self: by Norman Grubb - [PART ONE & PART TWO]
by Nancy Gilmore on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 at 11:10am
No Independent Self
by Norman Grubb

The basis of our total truth, which we are taking to the whole church in the whole world, is that the human self has no nature of its own. It is the expressor of a deity nature, whether the nature of the false deity, the spirit of error, or the true Deity, the Spirit of Truth (1 John 4:6). Because we have all become accustomed to speaking of ourselves as having a human nature, it may make it clearer if we speak of the self never being an independent self. It has never been a self-operating self, and thus never operating by expressing a nature of its own.

There is no independent, self-operating self in the universe, except the One who calls Himself the I AM (Exodus 3:14), and says, "I am God and there is none else . . . There is no God else beside Me" (Isaiah 45:21,22).

But the Independent One has a limitation to His independence, for it is said of Him that He cannot lie (Titus 1:2). In other words His eternal self-independence is a fixed choice between two alternatives (these alternatives are explained in the following paragraphs on the law of opposites). Therefore, when we say that we created selves have no independent self, but express His eternal Deity Self, we are also saying that we express God's fixed nature, which has eternally discarded the possibility of expressing the liar, self for self nature. We are fixed as He ( 1 John 3:9).


THE LAW OF OPPOSITES

The fundamental law of the universe is that there are pairs of opposites, and that nothing operates except by the one swallowing up the other (2 Cor.5:4), the one using the other as its means of manifestation -- thus light-dark, heat-cold, sweet-bitter, hard-soft, yes-no, the positive-negative of electricity, and the proton-electron of the atom: or taken into our own reality as selves, self-loving or self-giving self: self for self or self for others.

This is why it says of God Himself that He cannot lie. In other words, He is dead to being a self for self (a liar) and is unalterably fixed as being the Self for others. The eternal fact is that He has never been a loner, but brought His own Son into Being. Thus He is the eternal other lover (John 5:20; 3:35). (See Alan Parker pamphlet on "The Cross in the Heart of God").

Thus created selves can only know themselves and function by being confronted by the choice of opposites. This was true also among those whom we speak of as heavenly beings. Lucifer was the chief one close to the throne of God (IS. 14:12-14; Ezekiel 28:12-15). He was created to be the manifestor of the Creator's fixed nature of other-love, (Lucifer means Light-bearer). But he chose in his freedom to be the expressor of the opposite, alternative nature of self-for self to which God had died. He brought into manifestation the hidden fire-nature rather than the light-nature of God (Hebrews 12:29: 1 John 1:5). He imagines himself to be in independent self (Is. 14:13, 14), but is deceived as to who he really is. Jesus called him the expression of negative light (Matt. 5:23). There was war in heaven and Lucifer was cast out (Rev. 12:7-9).


GOD'S PURPOSES TO BE FULFILLED BY HIS FAMILY OF SONS

God utilizes the choice between alternatives in us to fulfill His eternal plan "to the praise of His glory" (Eph. 1:3-14). He is bringing into being a vast family of sons in His image, whose created selves (with no independence of their own) express His fixed other-love nature. They will manage the universe with His Son (Heb. 1:2; Rom. 8:17) by ministering to it in His eternal other-love, and thus serving and liberating it to fulfill itself in the love of one to the other (Is. 11:1-9; Rom. 8:19-21), so that the whole universe will be one eternal song of praise, worship, harmony, mutual love and delight (1 Cor. 15:24-28).

This then necessitated that we who are created in His image be confronted by the reality of the opposites in ourselves and choose to express the deity nature of self-for-others or self-for-self. Therefore, the firs created couple had to be confronted with the symbol of the two trees in the Garden. They were at first unconscious expressors of God's other-love nature. Adam was in harmony with all creatures and could give each its proper name (Gen. 2:20): they knew no opposite to other-love in union with the Father.

In order to become conscious operating selves, and not merely continue like spontaneous infants, God used Lucifer, the wrathful expressor (Rev. 12:12) of that opposite fire-nature, to entice and deceive Eve. She responded to Satan's (the serpent) lies about God and began to express his self-for-self nature in herself by taking the fruit which God had forbidden. Adam consciously chose to identify with Eve's self-for-self nature disobedience (1 Tim. 2:14).

Thus they became conscious of the opposites through the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The good is self which expresses God and other-love; the evil is a self which expresses Satan and self-loving love. They became expressors of their Satan-father's self-for-self nature, Satan's "seed" (Gen. 3:14; 1 Jn. 3:8-10: Jn. 8:44). In their expression of him (Eph. 2:1-3, they became tricked into the false concept of seeing themselves as independent selves, even as their false father Satan was deceived into thinking he is an independent self. (In reality he expresses that negative fire-nature in God which, rightly used in God became the source of the light-nature of other-love).

So we transmit what we are or think we are. Therefore, it was God's purpose that Satan, the serpent, should transmit his deceived concept of his independence into us his seed. As a result we fallen humans think we are independent selves. But in reality we are merely expressors of Satan's self-for-self nature. Note the word "deceiveth" in that plainest word in Scripture concerning his lying effects on us (Rev. 12:9). And thus by this deceitful means we destined sons of the Father could once for all experience the bitterness of this lie and discard it through the Last Adam, Jesus Christ.

THE SECRET AND ESSENTIAL VALUE OF THE LAW OF GOD THROUGH MOSES

From this follows God's gracious dealings with fallen humanity through the law given by Moses (Jn.1:17). Paul has been the great expositor of its necessary purpose. Actually the law, as outer manifestor of God's true nature, is inherent in every person. The law exposes eternal truth as well as our inability to perform it in our false union with Satan. Romans 1:8-21 makes that plain and traces our total declension from it in the rest of the chapter. But here and there is a response in an honest heart, as in Romans 2:18-21, and the instance of Joseph in Genesis 39:9. And all nations have had their laws of right and wrong. But in the blindness of our deceived selves, we have not recognized our self-for-self nature as sin against God and its eternal consequences. This is the "ignorance" of Acts 17:23, Ephesians 4:18, and even of Paul in 1 Timothy 1:13. Thus only the outer pronouncement of God's law is known to be sin (Rom. 5:13).

So when God began His eternal purpose of restoring the human family to its true being, He first give His great call to Abraham to be the human father of the family of faith who would believe in the Living God, the "Possessor of heaven on earth." There had always been the thin line, like a nylon thread of believers and knowers, in this Satan-captured world, from Abel, Seth, Enoch, Noah, and Shem, to Abraham. But it was just a thread. Now it was to become a great nation of believers in the true God in that idol-infested world. In the "fullness of time" He would Himself come in the flesh to be our marvelous Saviour.

In due course the first little family became a great population in Egypt and then became a nation through Moses in its own promised land . It was Moses who gave them and us, in plain words inscribed in stone, the true characteristics of God's holy nature (which in our later days we are to know as law all fulfilled in love). Yet in His fullness of mercy, He combined the law and its judgments (which we would inevitably break because it was given to us to expose the inevitability of our breaking it as slaves to the sin deity) with constant means of restoration and access to Him by blood sacrifices and various fellowship offerings of the Tabernacle and Temple. By these means, indeed, there were always those (many more than we might think -- 2 Kings 19:18) who had a living relationship with God For the Lamb had been slain from the foundation of the world, and there was a spiritual Christ before the historic Christ (Heb. 11:26; 1 Cor. 9:3,4: Jn. 8:56, 58).

So in the blindness of our fallen hearts, the law was God's merciful means of revealing sin as sin. Then, in that fullness of time, the True Lamb of God came to make the one complete and sufficient sacrifice for the sins of the world. By His death and resurrection there is justification from the condemnation and eternal consequence of our sins condition. This is for all who move in by inner faith reception and outer word confession of Him in His finished work of atonement. Beyond that the Spirit gives inner witness of the replacement of the Spirit of Truth for that false spirit of error. This is the radical revelation to those who cannot stop short of our total inheritance.

[to be continued here in part 2]

No Independent Self - Part Two

By Norman Grubb


We have come now to the law's final revelation, which the vast majority of the redeemed remain ignorant of. It is for those who hunger and thirst after righteousness until they are filled (Matt 5:6). What is revealed is the root of sin: the Satanic deceit of thinking we are independent selves, who by ourselves can resist all Satan's assaults of self for self. This is especially under line for us by Paul in Romans 7. We know we have now become new creations in Christ and experience in our redeemed selves the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22, 23). But at the same time, we are being constantly knocked off our steady walk in the Spirit by the assaults of all kinds of temptations. They drag us back toward sin-responses such as fear, hate, lust, pride, etc.

Because we are still under the delusion of being independent selves, we respond to those temptations which the law says we should not respond to. We therefore say we don't want to respond, and we make resolutions that we won't (Paul's Romans 7 statement "when I would do good"). But then we are hopelessly caught. We struggle and seek to resist the pulls, but there they are. We feel guilty for having such pulls -- which we call flesh -- and experience inward guilt and often outward response. We blame those responses on a supposed flesh-nature which binds and drives us, so that we see ourselves as what Paul said in Romans 7:14: "carnal, sold under sin." So we remain with our struggles and inner condemnations as being such flesh people. When we have actually sinned, we repeatedly return to 1 John 9 and thankfully accept the forgiveness and cleansing, though with the hopeless recognition that we shall very soon go through the same repeated syndrome of struggle, condemnation by the law, and renewed cleansing.

But at last some of us come to a place of desperation. Only those who become desperate can find the releasing secret. Paul himself went this way. In Romans 6 he leads us through the deeper meaning of identification with Christ, by which we reckon ourselves dead to sin and alive unto God. But while we reckon that in Romans 6, it just doesn't work out in the life of Romans 7! Yet Paul then goes on to leave Romans 7 forever behind (except for occasional foolish visits) and live in the reality of Romans 8, where there is no further condemnation, there is freedom. The fixed law of the Spirit of life forever replaces the former fixed law of sin and Satan control.

Paul's great discovery was that the human self is basically neutral as for as the kind of nature it expresses. He says in Romans 7:18 that no good thing resides in our humanity (flesh). But then he says that neither does any bad thing, though he had mistakenly and so deceivingly thought it did. No!
- - if any good in him is expressed by the Spirit bearing His fruit through him, merely as a branch; so also, any bad is not in humanity, our flesh, but is equally the fruit of the bad spirit through us as a branch. He actually said that in Romans 6:20-22. Which fruit were we formerly producing? Fruit is not a branch product, but a vine product. It depends on which vine our human selves are the branches of! So if the good is the Spirit of good expressed by me, the bad is the spirit of bad - - what Paul called "sin that dwelleth in me" in Romans 7:17. This is now replaced by Christ dwelling in us (Romans 8:10).

So, at the point of desperation, Paul found a solution to his misery. He was not able to combat temptations under the pointing finger of the law's "you ought to." The solution was the radical revelation that he never was an independent self combating temptation and challenged by the law. He came to see his created self (as are all selves) as the mere container and then expresser of the Eternal Self. We are all created to contain and express the eternal self. But we have to learn that nothing functions except by swallowing up its opposite. We learn the operation of God's opposite by yielding our human selves to the Satan occupant, resulting in "sin that dwelleth in me." We are tricked into believing that we run ourselves (as he thinks he runs himself) and that we ourselves are the sin person doing the sins. But we are branches, not vines.

God sent the law through Moses to challenge us to be doers if we think we can! Down at last we fall. We are of course unable to be self-operating selves; because there is no such things. Initially we saw our sins removed by grace. We did not yet see that they were Satan's sins by us and not ours (Jn 8:44). But then comes the final discovery that the sin-doer was never we, but he in us as us. The law caught us out as if we were independent selves. Then came the condemnation fro the law and the struggling to rid ourselves of the sin-power holding us. But at last we see! There never was anything wrong with our branch humanity made in His image. So therefore, we take no condemnation as if we were the culprit. It was he, "Mr. Sin", pulling at us and often knocking us over.

This brings us to Paul's Calvary revelation that Jesus on the cross was we on that cross, for He came to be our representative. Because sin was indwelling and expressing itself by us, He died on Calvary as us, His holy body as ours. He was thus "made sin" (2 Cor 5:21), made the sin expresser we were. In his death, the Spirit of error left that body. Sin as us left. In the tomb His own resurrecting Spirit came into His body and raised it. He comes into our bodies also as we receive Him by faith. So Paul saw the truth about our human selves. The created human self, created "very good" in God's image, had never had anything wrong with, except that it participated in physical mortality. Now it manifests the nature of the Spirit of truth and responds to His drives. It is dead in Christ to manifesting the nature of the spirit of error and responding to his drives. Therefore, we have also become "dead to the law," because the law only had an apparent claim on us while we were living in the deceit of thinking we were independent selves running our own lives. So now there remains nothing for this outer law of God to point demanding or accusing fingers at. We are "dead to the law", because there is no longer such a thing as an independent self to which the law can address itself.

Free At Last

So now at last are clear. We are free because we know ourselves as nothing but the expresser, vessel, branch, temple, body member, and slave of the Deity self, his Spirit joined to our spirits. And we have moved in by the recognition of faith, as in Romans 8:2 and Gal 2:20, to being right self-conscious selves, conscious of ourselves being Himself in expression. We act freely as ourselves because He has of His own choice by grace joined, fused, and identified Himself with us as ourselves. We are "driven" people, driven by His self-for-others deity nature. And we live freely in His keeping in our soul-body reactions as much as in our spirit (1 Thess 5:23).


So then, what about those continual pulls that we still have to that old opposite -- those invasions of fear, hate, worry, lust, self-seeking and weakness? Now we are alive to Satan's subtlest assaults on us. The subtle trick occurs when we feel those constant pulls on us and we go back to the old habits of thinking we ought not to respond to them. Bang! We have been caught out in the old habit of thinking we are independent, and thus need to respond to an "ought to" or an "ought not". This is the subtle trick. Those pulls make us think we are independent human selves again, and the moment we think that, back comes the law saying, "No, you ought not to." And we are caught right up into false condemnation. That "ought not" only reaches us because we have slipped back into thinking we should be watching ourselves, running our own lives, and combating the wrong pulls. This is where Satan has his laugh on us. There we are, inwardly condemned as if we ought not to fear, hate, anger, lust, or to want or react to these negative desires. And there we are struggling and condemned, or maybe following through to some actual sin.

Why? Here comes Satan's final subtle trick. We are tricked in to thinking that having those pulls is sin: whereas, the real sin is the unbelief of thinking we are again independent selves who should not have these pulls. But the independent self is really Satan-self again having his hold on us, and we then again "carnal sold under sin". That means we are back again under the law with its "thou shalt not". But we are bound and unable to keep that law because our false sense of independent self, to which the law addresses itself, is really Satan as us with his temporary control of us.

Paul puts the essence of Romans 6,7 and 8 into three verses to the Galatians -- Galatians 5:16-18. "Walk in the Spirit," he writes, "and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh." We are Spirit people, but still in our flesh-humanity, and thus open to all Satan's pull on us in our soul-body emotions and appetites. So now what happens? We become conscious of flesh pulls, for, says Paul, "the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh, and these are contrary the one to the other." These contrary pulls make us conscious of the antagonistic opposites, "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. We are Spirit people bearing Spirit fruit and loving to be so, but we now also feel the pulls and desires of the flesh -- Satan's agency in this Satan-filled world for attracting us back to his self-for-self ways.

This consciousness of the flesh-Spirit antagonisms is the danger spot. Satan thereby seeks to drag us back to that separation through the fall, in which we again think we are independent selves instead of Spirit-united selves. This independent self outlook is really the touch of the old Satan-union on us. It also means that we immediately put ourselves back under the law again. And with what consequence? We are bound by that Satan-self in our separation and cannot respond to the law or Spirit, and so Paul says, "Ye cannot do the things that ye would." Thus we are under the condemnation of the law and experience guilt that we cannot fulfill it. Being in the lie of independent self temporarily puts us back under Satan's control. Therefore, we cannot do the things that we would. Properly caught, properly bound and condemned!

But now Paul says, "If ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law." In other words, if we are temporarily in unbelief, which has resurrected the lies of the independent self, we then suddenly remind ourselves of who we really are -- Spirit bound and Spirit led, our self expressing Himself. We then say, "Wait a minute. Of course I am not an independent self feeling these pulls of Satan. That is his lie. No, I am a Christ-self." I do not deny or fight the reality of my flesh pulls (and those are precisely what my Elder Brother equally, continually had according to Heb. 4:15).

I accept and recognize the reality of these flesh pulls, but I am dead to them in Christ ("always, bearing about in my body the dying of the Lord Jesus" as in 2 Cor. 4:10). They can shout at me by temptation, but have no hold or right to me (Roman. 8:12). I am alive unto God, a Spirit person, and led by the Spirit. The only law on me is what I now instinctively fulfill, the "law of the Spirit" by which I spontaneously do the things of the Spirit. Through Christ the Spirit has replaced that old "law of sin and death" by which I spontaneously did the things of the flesh. So I go free -- back to who I really always was.

This is Paul's definition of daily freedom under daily flesh-assaults or pressures. It is what James tol d us to be very thankful for -- good constant practice in the application of our faith walk. We admit those lying pulls back to unbelief, but now we are spontaneously faith-conscious of walking as Christ as us. Therefore, we "stand fast in the liberty wherewith Christ has made us free" (Gal. 5:1). By admitting Satan's right to pull at us through the flesh, we are also free to affirm our right to our faith-consciousness of being Christ as us. Thus we express Christ's nature of love, joy, and praising. We swallow up the negative pulls, or rather use those very pulls to express His pulls: love replacing hate, faith fear, rest strain, strength weakness, self-giving for self-gratifying, and so on.

We Will Repeat About This Independent Self


Because of its importance, and because it is the main reason for this whole "walking in the Spirit" sharing, I will address again what we do in meeting the assaults of the flesh. The answer is that we do not fight temptation, nor take condemnation for it. The very opposite. We recognize that the real temptation is to make me think I am the independent self that I am not. Then I am again "under the law", yet cannot fulfill it, because independent self is really Satan as me (Matt 16:23). It is the sin of unbelief. What then do I do? I quickly recognize that the problem is not my having flesh-temptation, but rather my temporarily forgetting (2Pet 1:9) that I am n longer and independent self. Who I am is simply and sole an express of Christ in His nature..

Therefore, as quickly as I can, I accept the fact of being tempted, for we live in a totally tempting world. Accepting that, I don't deny or resist the temptation. No, I resist the tempter (James 4:7) by saying, "That's not I you are pulling: That's only my outer soul emotions and body appetites, which of course are open to all that can reach me from your outer world" -- 1 Cor 2:12). But I am not a bunch of outer responses, I am Christ as me. He is the real Self expressed by my human container self." As I do that, I am in fact doing what Paul said in 2 Cor 4:10: inwardly recognizing my place of death in his death to those old pulls of Satan on my human self. In place of these temptations, I am seeing myself in my true self-relationship of Christ in me as me. As I do that, the consciousness of myself as a Christ-expresser swallows up the negative consciousness of Satan and his pulls on me. Satan flees (Ja 4:7). I resist him by replacing false belief in him by true belief in who I really am -- Christ as me. Light swallows up dark. We don't fight the dark; we replace it by turning on the light.

Our danger, then, is not the fact that temptation pulls us. We shall always have plenty of that on all levels. The danger is that it tricks us back into thinking we are the selves who must respond to these pulls. But now we know that trick of Satan. We accept the pulls as normal and right on our humanity. But then we say, "That's not my real me. Those are only pulls on my outer clothing of soul-body. My 'me' is Christ as me, and the light is on and the darkness swallowed up." And if we are tempted to think, "But yes, we are constantly assaulted by the same things," then we then equally say, " And yes, that gives me continual practice in recognizing again and again who I am -- Christ as me!"

And Now That More Than Conqueror Reality

Now we are "more than conquerors" (Rom 8:37), because we are freed from having to fight our own battles and watch out for our human responses. We are "fathers," not just "young men" (1Jn 2:12-14). We are co-laborers, co-saviors (1 Cor 9:22), and intercessors. We now move out to meet the needs of others. We are more than just personal conquerors; we can lead others into conquest. We are the privileged ones to be "Knowers" by the Spirit of what is to us the total truth; That formerly we were Satan-I, but now through Calvary Christ-I, with no illusory independent self in between. This is such liberating light and the meaning of life in fullness that we have an unending drive of the Spirit to bring this "mystery hidden from ages and generations and now made manifest: (Col 1:26) to all God's people. We are taking our share in this worldwide, church-wide commission. We know it includes also our share in the offense of the cross where the sword of the Spirit pierces too deep and disrupts established convictions. But we also have the glory of seeing an increasing number in whom the light is lit in clarity. And we know our calling, as with Paul, is "to open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel," and to "speak boldly as I ought to speak" (Eph 6:19, 20). And by God's enabling, this we will do.

No Independent Self: by Norman Grubb - [PART ONE & PART TWO]

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How God Used Watchman Nee in my life: By Nancy Fitzpatrick

"The deadness and feebleness of the saints today is largely due to their receiving and following the truth with their minds. This is nothing but the law. In spite of the exactness of the letter, it is absolutely not of the Holy Spirit." - Watchman Nee

I'd like to share with you, how the Spirit used Watchman Nee in my life. Actually it's quite significant! Watchman Nee wrote a book called "LOVE NOT THE WORLD". . .and I was drawn to it back in the 60's, (in fact, I'm sure I could find that old book today- packed away, somewhere in my things, as a keepsake!). As I read the book and was open to the Spirit, I came to one of the chapters where Nee said "something" like this; winning souls is not all that high of a calling; anyone can do that. (I'm sure I'm not quoting that part exactly correct!). But it got my attention! So as I continued reading I found he reached his fever-pitch in saying; what is significant, DOES THE DEVIL KNOW WHO YOU ARE? And he used the scripture in Acts 19:11-16 which says: "And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul: So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them. Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the LORD Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preaches. And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so. And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you? And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified." - I literally leap out of my chair up in the air with the book in my hand waving it to the Lord and crying out to Him, saying; YES, LORD, THAT'S WHAT I WANT. . .I WANT THE DEVIL TO KNOW WHO I AM!

I can't begin to tell you the many ways over the years the Spirit has proven both to me and to the Devil that's exactly what the DEVIL KNOWS, Who I am. Christ in me, as me.

Why must we know faith - By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

Why we must know faith; by Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore.

Why we must know faith.

Is there anything that destroys us like “having no faith”?
I know that statement is not good English, but perhaps it makes the point best.

The absence of faith destroys us.

Faith is vital! Faith is critical to our well being!

What is faith then? I mean, “Real Faith” – God’s kind of faith?

Without faith you can do nothing!

Faith isn’t just ‘something’ to believe…- but faith is the very substance of God whose believing is in us! God not only believes in us, but God believes that we’ll believe on His believing in us.

Faith is God at work in us. Faith is God’s operation in us producing His Liberating Life. Faith not only knows what to believe, faith knows who to believe on.

Faith is the evidence; God evidence of things not seen.

Perhaps this explains the attack on faith within us. Explains why faith suffers long!

Did you ever think about the suffering that is in you is God’s faith suffering for you to believe ON HIM?

Why is it important for us to know we are not self-acting-selves: By Nancy Fitzpatrick

Why is it important for us to know we are not self actings selves? One good reason- it puts life into focus for us. I need to know what it is to be a person, and then be that person. Being is important! I need to be who I am. And I need to know who I am as well as be who I am.

Who Am I? This seems to be the age old question! We hear it first ask by Moses of God Himself. WHO ARE YOU..WHO SHOULD I SAY SENT ME? WHAT IS YOUR NAME? Those are very personal questions Moses ask of God. But that's what Moses wanted to know! That's what Moses needed to know. We need to know that too. Who is God and how am I related to Him?

My relationship with God is important. How AM I related to Him? I don't necessarily mean a genealogy; tho without the genealogy of Christ there is no relationship! So naturally we must KNOW Christ! But here I am relating to 'what's my one on one' with my business partner? Jesus said, I must be about My Father's Business. What did He mean, and how does it apply to us?

I personally think it means God has a job to do, and this time by us. And since this is "the scoop" of our fellowship (God & mine), I best be in a good relationship with my business partner.

One of the first things I need to learn is; WHO IS BOSS! And then I need to find out how He intends to put through His arrangement He's previously made by His Son. And THEN I need to find out if He's ever going to make me some kind of an partner in His business. After all there will come a time of retirement and I need to know if there are any benefits in the future.

FAITH IS THE LANGUAGE OF GOD: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

FAITH IS THE LANGUAGE OF GOD

In regard to being sensitive to how others 'take' what we say; we need to recognize...- 'since deception makes you think you are something you are not' - the Holy Spirit, who IS love, must 'definitely' be a disturbance in other peoples lives. I'm never concerned about that because in this life we say what we hear the Spirit saying, and know He is reaching His objective. SO.. when we know someone says they 'believe', but do not "speak faith" ...- we address that. And we too will be a disturbance in others lives as the Lord uses us.

Faith is a language of the Spirit we learn. It's the language of God. It is from another dimension; the invisible. The faith that speaks is generated in us by Christ; The Invisible One.

Abraham believed and it was counted as righteous unto him. So Abraham's believing was real faith. It was the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not see. We can learn this language of faith directly by Gods' revelation to Abraham. It's recorded in Romans 4:13-25. It's telling us that Abraham 'caught' on to how God operates. It says Abraham saw in Gods' promise that God called those things that be not as though the were!

Abraham copied Gods' method, and with everything out of Abraham's reach physically, against hope, believed! And Abraham was credited by God, Gods-substance! It's evidence that is in the promise. Abraham had his son! The promise was as good as the boy! And being not weak in faith, Abraham considered NOT his own body dead when it was about 100 years old, neither the deadness of Sarah's womb. He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strong in faith, giving glory to God.

Now we do the same thing! Abraham is the 'father of our faith'. Abraham gave us this pattern. Abraham teaches us the 'know-how' of faith. He learned how to operate in faith. SO it says, Abraham being fully persuaded that what God promised, He was able also to perform. In other words this is a sure thing! And he said so! For 25 years he said so. Do you suppose he got some persecution? Or do you suppose they made fun of him? You see his name got change when he got faith. Names back them truly meant certain things to other, and Abraham means "I'm a daddy!"

Now this is the language of the Spirit of God. It operates on a higher level than ration or reason, and it has nothing to do with 'sense-knowledge'! It requires a leap into a different form of operation than we are accustom to at first. But we soon learn we are in union with a God who CANNOT LIE! Union means we co-operate with God in the way He does things.

Union puts life in gear for us. Union is the required positive- negative connection for operation with God. The 'whole' of life is union with God as us. We operate in this life by the faith of God. It's HIS FAITH! Make sure you're connected IS in union with Christ. This negative-positive connection is how things happen AS we speak the language of faith.

What about dying to self? By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

I don’t believe in dying to self… -maybe, dying to a ‘false’ identity of your-self, but not the self God created you to be, or what Christ joined Himself to in His redemption of us. What other self is there to die to? This is who I am as a vessel, as a branch, as a person. Jesus called me by, my name, just the same as he called Paul, Peter, James, John and YOU. I don’t see ‘dying to self’ taught in scripture as it’s taught by man’s teachingS. The only death we are instructed to ‘see’ is in union with Christ as the dying of the Lord Jesus working in us as described in, 2Corn. 4:7 -12. This to me was/is an exciting death as it has a promise in it; the promise of Christ manifestation in our mortal body, with the life of Christ in others. I do see a ‘letting-go’ of thinking we’re running our own life as though we had a life to run. But letting go of an idea that is false is not a death to self. It’s liberation!

All Things Considered: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

Did you ever consider God didn't give us anything BUT Christ; and that all things good are IN HIM? This deeper understanding of having Eternal Life began closing the gap in my consciousness when God began to show me He didn't give me anything apart from Christ. It was when I began to see He IS my Righteousness, the gap began to close. When I saw, He became my condemnation; because God made Him- who knew no sin, to be made sin for me! The same with the healing; He IS my health, and well-being; no matter how I feel! Actually, since we can know nothing 'apart' from our selves, and Christ says, "...this is Eternal Life, that we know Him..."; I saw He had to live His life as me for me to know Him on this level He was speaking, in John 17. Though I knew "of Him in me" the gap didn't close between He and I until I changed my "in" to "as"...; this is when I began to "know Christ as my life"; AS A WHOLE person in Christ; with Christ being my Center 24/7.

The Incarnation; by Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

The Incarnation is, without a doubt, the greatest miracle to ever take place in flesh and blood in all of human history. It not only affected every human being God ever created, but it ultimately brought into existence a new dimension in the Throne Room of God; where we are now accepted with our Elder Brother, Jesus. I think we can in every sense of the word, accept ourselves, not because God made everything good in creation; but because Jesus made us new by being the Progenitor of a 'new race' of people through His resurrection. Christ raised us in Himself when He was raised from the dead; which takes us into a new dimension with Him; an invisible dimension where we are unencumbered by earthly things; and kept by the power of His Spirit; quickening us throughout eternity. To God Be the Glory!

EVERYTHING ! - By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

EVERYTHING! By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

Everything that happens in this world has to do with Jesus Christ! He is the Center of all things from before the foundation of the world.

And once we come to the fall of man we see in Geneses 3:15 the Lord makes it clear to Satan, (who is now involved with man), that what is now going to take place is 'man' is going to replace Satan as the false deity in man; by the crucifixion of the man, Jesus; who is Christ. Once Satan found this out his murdering rampage began to kill every child born of woman. Satan didn't know which child WOULD be Jesus.

We can also get a 'sneak peek' concerning some happenings experienced by God's prototype Job; when God initiates a conversation with Satan, and makes it clear Satan is an AGENT and has boundaries; but that God uses him for HIS PURPOSES. See Job 1 and 2.

Now that Jesus Christ has come and the Word of God spoken in Geneses 3:15 is fulfilled in history, as the crucifixion manifested; and Jesus has been raised from the dead, (which oboviously the resurrection was never revealed in ways that Satan would know of it, before it happen!); we have the Progenitor of a new race of people. Jesus Christ, and US, WHO BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

In Christ we have now come to Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and an innumerable company of angels; to the general assembly and church of the first-born, who are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to JESUS the MEDIATOR of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaks better things than that of Able.

And as co-heirs with Jesus Christ by our union with Him as our Life; our role in this great scheme of God's is recorded in Ephesians 3:9-12. “We are to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ 'to this intent' -that NOW unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known, by the church, the manifold wisdom of God, according to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus, our Lord, in whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith OF him.”

This IS the fast the Lord has chosen. Isaiah 58:6-11

6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that you break every yoke?

7 Is it not to deal your bread to the hungry, and that you bring the poor that are cast out to your house? when you see the naked, that you cover him; and that you hide not yourself from your own flesh?

8 Then shall your light break forth as the morning, and your health shall spring forth speedily: and your righteousness shall go before you; the glory of the LORD shall be your reward.

9 Then shalt you call, and the LORD shall answer; you shalt cry, and He shall say, Here I am. If you take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

10 And if you draw out your soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall your light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day:

11 And the LORD shall guide you continually, and satisfy your soul in drought, and make fat your bones: and you shall be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

In Recognition of Christ 'as' You! - By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

You are a blessing of Christ's LIFE to be recognized-... with praise of Him! HE is the joy, and delight that we all know as each other. His exciting love is flowing, and we are in that flow of God! Our DNA is of God! And the spiritual vein of life and love is Christ in all of us to be recognize. This exciting LIFE of our inner-recognition belongs to The Lord that only He is exalted in everyone of us as we are His witness one to another. Let us recognize a new wave of God's Spirit flowing out from us; sweeping up for eternity a host of "Lovers of God!" by means of everyone of us! And to Christ be the Glory forever! Amen! I love you

SEEING BY FAITH - NOT BY SIGHT: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

There are lots of ways we can look at things, and I've made it my practice of faith to see only God, no matter how others perform. Only God knows the end from the beginning, and I prefer to see through the visible to the Invisible Christ gathering His harvest of souls that He says, are the heirs of Salvation. I think here is the secret of living by faith, particularly, when it comes to others.

God makes sure no one glories in men! Here's what I understand of God's ways. Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool, that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He ‘takes’ the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. Therefore, let no man glory in men!

For ‘all’ things are “yours’! Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; “all are yours” - and you are Christ's, and Christ is God's. ... Because... God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; and the base things of the world, and things which are ‘despised’ - God has chosen, (interesting!) and things which are not, to bring to ‘nothing’ things that are; that no flesh should glory in his presence.

But of Him are you in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto ‘us’ wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption; that, according as it is written, “He that glories, let him glory in the Lord. This is our revelation of how God does things, and He says, I should glory in Him, and how He is operating in the invisible where these visible things appear. Since God, does things after this manner, I see from the appearance of things, we’ve got a lot going for us pertaining to using faith with God, and we need to take advantage of what God has revealed.

Listen to this; “God, who gives life to the dead, and calls those things which are not, as though they were....".

Now since God gives life to the dead and calls the things that are not as though they were; and He brings to nothing the things that are, by the things that are not; I can't figure out for the life of me, why I would stew over the appearance of things. They fit the perfect conditions of God working. Consequently, I started relating like God, and seeing the way God sees. We know God is of too pure eyes than to behold evil. Tell me why I should see it? Thus when these situations arise that we despise, and appear to be evil in the sight of men I can interpret them from God’s point of view and know they are the perfect condition for the Lord showing up as this or that person.

Jesus says, when my eye is single my whole body is full of light. Why would I want to see evil and have my whole body full of darkness? So I like to agree with God about people and things on the highest understanding that He has made available to me. I take sides with God. This is what He has revealed for me to do.

I call the things that be not even as though they were; knowing that God brings to nothing the things that are by the things that are not. I express my faith toward Him. I praise Him, and thank Him that He is their life, and that He is in them, now; and He is the One awakening them.

Scripture references: Isaiah 46:10 – Habakkuk 1:13
1st. Corinthians 1:27-31; 2:18-23; and Romans 4:17; and of course we can add; the just shall live by faith; faith speaks and a host of other faith stimuli. Then we would have to conclude; if I see any problems the problem is in my seeing. Faith is seeing God DOING HIS THING!

Again: A COMMISSIONED LIFE: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

Little is said about knowing a "commissioned" life. Yet I believe there are many who have this 'sense of commission' from God, where God -in some way- has made known to you He has you on location for Him to reach a particular objective. Perhaps something in another's persons life; or something God has taken you in that you cannot let go- no matter what the obstacles happen to be. You have this 'sense of commission' in knowing God has an 'objective' He wants to reach by you. It is special! It is God who is a work in you both to will and to do of His Good Pleasure; and you have this 'knowing'-...it's a commission! There is a cost involved; suffering. Yet the LORD is your joy fulfilling the desire of your heart! In a 'commissioned-life' there is always an outcome to be reached. I have had several of these commissions in my life where I was on location for a period of time for others

CHRIST IN ME vs CHRIST AS ME: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

Christ 'in' me -verses- Christ 'as' me: by Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

I’ve had this wonderful revelation, and I’m wondering if you also have had it. For a number of years I’m been telling folks; Christ is our life; as Jesus said, “I am the life”. I’ve found it’s fairly easy at times to convince believers to agree that Christ is their life; even when I’m meaning a much deeper concept than the one they are relating.

So a few years ago I began to show believers they needed to change their ‘in’ to ‘as’ when they related to their union with Christ. Some would agree as the Apostle John said; "As He is in this world now so are we." But they would not say Christ lives ‘as’ me. They would only say Christ is ‘in’ me with no recognition of who is doing the living.

I attempted to show them the difference in Christ ‘in’ me –vs.- Christ ‘as’ me, by saying when we only relate to Christ ‘in’ me; we have Christ, and we have me; two! Not one. A gap exists between me and Christ. But in reality there is no gap; no separation of Christ with Him being our life; except the separation be in consciousness. However, when we say Christ ‘as’ me it closes the gap! And by faith I have an inner-recognition of Christ living as me. I have not disappeared, and I am not separated from Him. I have begun to recognize I am spirit in union with the Spirit of Christ. And this is my inner-recognition of abiding in the Lord, and the Lord abiding in me. Jesus said, if you abide in me, and I abide in you; you bear much fruit. Christ living ‘as’ me is our Vine-branch union-recognition of abiding in Christ.

However, I’ve not been all that successful in convincing others to say Christ lives His Life “AS’ me. Some will say; that’s blasphemy. Others will say; you’re trying to be God! Others may agree that YOU can say it that way if you like, but it’s not for them! Still others will even say it’s just semantics! Even some will say, you can’t teach others to say, “Christ as me” when they are still sinning; and they bring up all the sin passages in the bible as though this replaces any reality of Christ living ‘as’ us, and they continue with their ‘teachings’ of law and grace.

But I find this reasoning is not the real reason why they don’t want to say, Christ lives His life ‘as’ me. I find a deeper reason. I find the real reason being- …they like to be themselves, thinking this is true freedom and independence!

I ask you, is this not the deception of the fall? Independence! Actually this deception is a license TO sin. This is the reason why it is affirmed by some; I’m just a sinner saved by grace, but God is not through with me yet. This dear friend is a deception! Deception is to believe a lie about our selves! And deception is dangerous.

The fact is to be born again eliminates the sin issue! To be born again eliminates independent self! To be born again creates a new life! To be born again creates the reality of Christ being in us as our life, desiring for us to know Him as the one living as us; and with Him getting the recognition! You can know nothing apart from yourself and Paul makes this plain when he says; “It God who is at work in you ‘both’ to will and to do of HIS good pleasure”!

In moving from little children, to young men, to Fathers as described in 1stJohn 2:12-14 there comes a time when we move by faith from Christ in me to Christ as me. Paul said when it pleased the Lord to reveal His Son in me, and Jesus said I will show him all the things that he must suffer for my sake. No separation there. This is union with God. This is oneness. This is Christ living “as’ Paul. This is eliminating the sin issue completely! And this is what the Apostle John was meaning when he said; “He that is born again sinneth not, for he is begotten of God, and keeps himself” 1stJohn 5:18. In reality our inner recognition is Almighty God in us by the Living Spirit of our Resurrected Lord making us one in Christ with God! And God continuing His work of redemption ‘as’ us.

I have found when we say Christ lives His life ‘as me’ we are saying He is the Authority in me, and I am not an independent which is the source of all sin. Sin originated in and ‘as’ Satan deception when he made his declaration of “I will be like God!” “I will ascend!” The five “I will” that he announced and is recorded for us in Isaiah 14, and described in Ezekiel 28. To be born again is the inner-recognition that Christ has redeemed us from this lying spirit of Satan operating by us, and Christ has taken His own rightful place in us to operate and live “as’ us.

For some reason it is not understood that ‘abiding’ is the prerequisite for bearing fruit. And the first step of abiding faith is my inner-recognition that Christ is living His life in me- ‘as me. Then; we can live being ourselves knowing it is Christ LIVING AS US as described in Galatians 2:20

LIBERATION IN ROMANS 7: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

I found my liberation IN Romans 7, instantly, years ago, when I saw my identity IS with the "inner man"...- and not with the false identity of an outer man who attempts to live independently by the Jewish Law. Romans 7 is about us needing to see we died to THAT Law; (as well as to sin, spoken of in Romans 6).

"And being dead to the Law we are joined to ANOTHER". This is what we need to see in the first section of Roman 7; then there is NO struggle in Romans 7; because we see in verse 22 our reality; "For I delight in the law of God after the inner man". Consequently, I'm not concerned about sin that is "no longer I". Sin is NOT in my identity; the struggle only occurs with an identity of an independent, and not in spirit-Spirit union in Christ. My delight is in my reality in Roman 7 with the inner man; my true identity as a person raised in Christ. This identity of spirit-Spirit union is vital to see, and this is what Romans 7 is all about; IDENTITY. I am the inner man in "union" with Christ as my TRUE inner man; two as one; thus I delight in the law of God after the inner man. We cannot be delighting and still having a struggle. Thus Romans 7 is not about a struggle, but about me finding my identity.

The Mystery of Iniquity (2Thess 7): By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

Crimes against humanity reflect only some of the atrocities of which Jesus suffered in His death, as the innocent victim, in which God laid on Him the iniquity of us all! God made Him, Jesus, who knew no sin, to be 'made sin' for us... -that the righteousness of God be made unto us who believe ON Him; Jesus, the Christ of God; the Love and Grace of God which no one will escape giving an account to God as to what we do with THIS man; whom God raised from the dead, and is alive today for each of us to personally know as Saviour and Lord.

IT IS TRUE IN EVERY LIFE: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

I get over the hump of temptation with my 'leap of faith' by excusing all concerned, and directly stating to the Lord that's He's the one who did it! EXAMPLE: My poor old back door is truly in need of being replaced! I mean I can't tell you how bad it is! I had it glued together with wood filler, and the wood filler has actually been stronger than the old door, (I'm speaking of the dead-bolt lock area). Having a new storm-door on the outside has been giving me problems of a vacuum between the doors not allowing the two doors to close properly... -and when someone messes with my 'rigged-up' way of getting around it, it screws everything up! Well guess what? Somehow it got messed with and as a result the old inside back door got it's dead-bolt lock literally rip completely loose from the door, by which the wood filler was the joining substance of security. Talk about temptation! Grumbling! Attitudes! or whatever you wish; after a few hours of "sticking" the door back together again, I was completely freed when I said, YOU did it LORD! You're the One who ripped the door apart! It WAS You, and I went off rejoicing, praising Him for His wisdom in it all! ".)! Faith not only makes you look crazy, it liberates you too!

Self 'is' spirit: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

Self is spirit. Our spirit joined to Christ's Spirit. In my case "self/spirit' is called, Nancy. I was raised with Christ in His Resurrection, and am a new creation in Christ. I do not become Christ. I am forever, Nancy joined to Christ by His Holy Spirit. When The LORD addresses me He calls me Nancy. That's who He created me to be. My identity is with Christ-. . . in spirit-Spirit-union. . . by the Holy Spirit who has joined Himself to my-self for all eternity. Christ is my True-self expressed by the Holy Spirit in and 'as' the created-self, spirit-Nancy.

We were NEVER people on our own! That was always our deception! In the fall as a deceived-self this deception came by the SIN-spirit-'self'-SATAN, and my identity was in Satan's deception of himself, as an independent-self. The sin-spirit-self as me was a FALSE identity; one I could not free myself from; a wicked deception OF Satan which held me captive UNTIL Christ died for me. Christ didn't just die for me, Christ was MADE-SIN for me! Christ was made that sin-spirit 'as me'! And in His death that false self-sin-spirit was cut off from me by His act of Divine GRACE! And in His RESURRECTION I was raised WITHOUT that FALSE-self-sin-spirit. And my identity was forever changed as a self.

In Galatians 2:20 we learn; I am crucified with Christ, (that's the wrong "self" OUT), nevertheless I live, (that the true created self God made me), but it is not I, (I have no life of my own), but Christ, (who lives in me). [ONE Life expressed as two- MADE ONE- union!]. And the life I now live in the flesh IS LIVED by the "faith OF the Son of God who loved me and gave HIMSELF for me.

In my co-crucifixion with Christ a 'false-self died as me! That was the only me I knew in the fall, and it was an independent-self, falsely represented with me; it was Mr SIN-spirit who claimed me for his own. Satan spirit masquerading as me! AND I didn't know it was Satan as me! That's the danger in deception, it's wickedness! It makes you think you're something you are NOT! AND IN CHRIST I was raised in co-resurrection with Christ never to die again. So there is no death to self for me! It is the very way Jesus Christ raised from the dead expresses Himself in and as me. The MYSTERY of God is Christ in you (in yourself! as you).

Radically in Christ; by Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore


Radically in Christ. Our abandonment is IN God! To God, and WITH God. And our sufferings- no matter what they are, we know are actually Christ's sufferings left behind for us, as stated in Colossians 1:24. God sets aside the godly for Himself; Ps.4:3. For we know the whole world groans in travail waiting for the redemption of the sons of God. The Spirit in us groans, and we ourselves groan. We ARE in union with Christ in His Spirit of Love for the redemption of his body...(the body is Christ). The sufferings of Christ is what we share in and share with others. And our comfort is by The Comforter who is in us. 2nd. Corinthians 1. Christ in us is the hope of glory, and Christ IS coming through, and we praising Him by our word of faith toward Him; and say what He is doing.

FAITH IS GOD'S CHALLENGE TO US: Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

"Now faith IS the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Then faith is a powerful thing God has entrusted us with. . .-put into our hands!

Evidence, could be said is the proving of faith. Are we proving the "BY Faith Life" for all it's worth? And if not is it because our faith is little, weak, mixed, or not the real thing?

Faith is a great mystery. A powerful thing!

I've been living by faith now many years, proving many things. YET ALWAYS MORE TO PROVE. True faith is reproductive! It is faith that is at work; producing evidence, and where else, but in others.

Don't you just love the simplicity of Peter? By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

"Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by THESE ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.


And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;

And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;

And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.


But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.


Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though that ye have knowledge, and be established in the present truth. For I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance;...I will endeavor therefore always, that ye also may be able to have remembrance of these things after my departing."

2Pe 1:2-13, 15


AND AFTER MINE!

PRAISE THE LORD - HE IS HERE! By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

Praise the Lord we are not under the OLD law, as when we were dead in sin. For God so loved the WORLD that the man Christ, Jesus came! God's ONLY begotten Son, who took upon Himself the sins of the whole world, and was indeed, Himself, MADE SIN! He Died for the whole world, and He was risen from the dead by 'that' Eternal Spirit, The Holy Spirit! who now is reconciling the whole world to Christ Jesus. That's what He is doing! Reconciling the world to PRAISE THE LORD! Praise The LORD, The HOLY SPIRIT has come now and is ALMIGHTY GOD with us, even in us, and even as us where we are! The Blessed Holy Spirit is ALL Present, ALL Powerful, and ALL Knowing! He is Almighty God! Praise the Lord, The man Christ JESUS IS LORD! LORD of Lords, and KING of Kings!

THIS DAY! THE DAY OF THE RESURRECTION! I HAVE BEGOTTEN THEE! by Nancy Fitpatrick

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;

And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

See Hebrews Chapter 1

ABIDING LIFE - TWO AS ONE: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

Living in forgiveness of others in the same way God has forgiven us, (as though we never sinned!), results in "abiding life" - two as one. THERE IS ONLY ONE LIFE; rightly used by us, individually, or collective; or wrongly use by humanity through deception. Deception make you think you are something you are not. It's deception that is dangerous. That's why Jesus said; Father forgive them they know not what they are doing. As He was in this world now so are we.

GOD, ALL IN ALL: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

When we say we are Christ in our form it is because we inwardly recognize the man, Christ Jesus, Himself, raised from the dead; ascended, and reining as The Lord of lords and King of kings; not leaving us orphans, but having filled us by His Life Giving Holy Spirit. The Person by Whom Christ is making us His superstructure; with every joint supplying. The Chief Cornerstone is Jesus Himself. The Foundation by which God is All in all.

THE BEGINNING AND END WITH NO FIGHT INCLUDED: by Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

According to Genesis 3:15 all the brutality and killing in this world is a result of God declaring to Satan, Who's who. Once God spoke to Satan as to His intentions of becoming man, Satan was on the warpath! Not knowing exactly who Christ would be, Satan began his killing spree. Maybe it's Abel, lets get rid of him, Satan surmised! But it wasn't Abel.

It's amazing how God managed to get Jesus born as His Son in the flesh right in the face of Satan's wrath and killing.

Although Satan had been informed by God that He was coming in the flesh; Satan knew nothing about 'any' Resurrection! This was a total surprise to Satan, and caught him completely off guard. Furthermore with us being included in the man, Christ Jesus being Resurrected, Satan got his 2nd. surprise with his eviction by the Holy Spirit in us taking all authority away from Satan; (Satan falsely believed in himself; this is his deception he attempt to pass on to mankind). However, now with us being Christ in our form we continue to be exposed Satan as the liar he is. Thus we are bringing Glory to Christ in the face principalities and powers 24/7. Ephesians 3:7-13

"(Genesis 3:15 - And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.)"

"(Ephesians 3:7-13: Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power. Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him. Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.)"

GOD IS STIRRING US: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

ALL THE CONTINUAL UNREST WE SEE IN THE WORLD PROVES GOD IS STIRRING US.

I wrote this to a friend this morning; All the continual unrest certainly proves God truly knows how to get things started with us "WORD people" as more and more turmoil arises. Thank God He has given us the power of a WORD. I am seeing (more and more) the Spirit causing me/us to declare what we would like to see happen; to declare what He is actually doing in redeeming his people. I do believe we are being driven this way of the Spirit of Elijah where by he said it would not rain for 3 years and it did not rain. I've been 'participating' with the Spirit in speaking a WORD of faith on many levels for others over the years, and seeing my word come to pass; and this 'world thing' is a great challenge of faith to me, but I've had a little practice when I declare my home a missionary outreach to the WORLD in 1992 and now am seeing the reaching of that WORD around the world by my "SEEING GOD ONLY!" Google LINK. Let us encourage one another to SAY what we would like to see happen.

INTERCESSORY LIFE: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

A WONDERFUL PICTURE OF INTERCESSION - 1 Samuel 22:1-2 David therefore departed thence, and escaped to the cave Adullam: and when his brethren and all his father's house heard it, they went down thither to him. And every one that was in distress, and every one that was in debt, and every one that was discontented, gathered themselves unto him; and he became a captain over them: and there were with him about four hundred men.

WHO'S WHO: by Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

It IS Christ who is our Life. He IS the Innocent-Life within us, as us. He IS our Credited Life in us, as us. He IS our identity, our 'other-half'. We do NOT become Christ! We are NEVER an independent with a nature of our own, NEVER! The HOLY SPIRIT has joined Himself to us, FOREVER. He IS our Representative in us, as us, FOREVER. He IS Christ Representative in us, as us, FOREVER. Just AS Christ got Himself a body FOREVER, and IS the man Christ Jesus, the Lord; The Holy Spirit got Himself a body FOREVER, and it IS 'we' the Body of Christ. When the Incarnation of Christ took place it changed the THONE ROOM of God, FOREVER. BEHOLD ALL THINGS ARE NEW.

A COMMISSIONED LIFE: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

Little is shared today about commissions, and yet I find it the main stream of our life with Christ.

I think I need to strongly indicate a life of commission with Christ is our special calling in Christ particulars' for others. Christ calls us to Himself first, and we know Him for ourselves. He also calls us to His 'specifics' by which He will go out by us to gain an objective which He mean to accomplish as us. We are included in this work of Christ. He involves us with what He is doing in this world. He makes us know what His objective is in a commission.

My first commission, (knowingly my first), was when I heard the Lord say a word to me concerning another, and has been the road by which I've mainly traveled since then. That first hearing was possibly February-March 1961. It was later confirmed within months, and revealed to me what was to take place. All things went as revealed. I was very new at the time concerning a commission, and had much to learn of the personal specifics in God's calling to this end. A second commission was given a few years later when I was given charge as one standing in the gap with Christ to reach His objective. The charge was one of love to go and do it!

I've had several commissions with God in my lifetime for different ones. Each one was different, but they all had an objective that was reached. I am in a commission right now as Christ lives as me; it's specific; something God will do by me.

This life of a commission is one I have known for at least 50 years. Some commissions only last for months, others a few years, and others for a life time. The Spirit causes us to know His calling in theses matter. But it's personal, and has it's results, and then we go on to another commission.

THE INVISIBLE REVEALED:by Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

We get a glimpse of our eternal life in Christ in the Transfiguration of Jesus on the Mount, before he was crucified. Here we see Him with his friends, both the visible, and invisible is revealed on the Mount with his friends; (Matthew 17:1-9, Mark 9:2-8, Luke 9:28-36); and 2 Peter 1:16-18 refers to it, too. There are a variety of 'FORMS of God' known as we humans revealed here; before and after physical death. Since we only learn by opposites this is a strong indication that just as this is a reality in which we now live "being in Christ", its opposite, if not swallowed up in Christ for us, is just as real. I don't believe speculation is faith, or truth. And Jesus said even the elect would be deceived if it weren't for him. We don't become Christ; but it is He who is living 'as us' in this world as well as the next... or it's hell in the end.

THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

We proclaim to you the one who existed from the beginning, whom we have heard and seen. We saw him with our own eyes and touched him with our own hands. He is the Word of life. This one who is life itself was revealed to us, and we have seen him. And now we testify and proclaim to you that he is the one who is eternal life. He was with the Father, and then he was revealed to us. We proclaim to you what we ourselves have actually seen and heard so that you may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ. We are writing these things so that you may fully share our joy. 1John 1:1-4

COME LET US TEST THE LORD! ARE THE HEAVENS OPEN TO YOU? By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

YOU, are the whole tithe! YOU ARE! I saw this years ago. Just as we want all of Him, The Lord wants all of us. You are the "whole tithe!" It is NOT your money He want, that is already His! IT IS YOU, He want, spirit, soul and body; all of you! I test the Lord in this, and the heavens are opened, with His Blessing pouring out, overflowing to others; and these blessings will continue to flow out, forever! forever! forever! Even after we leave this earth to forever be watching with Him from above.


"Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this," says the LORD of hosts, "if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows. Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of the ground; nor will your vine in the field cast its grapes," says the LORD of hosts. All the nations will call you blessed, for you shall be a delightful land," says the LORD of hosts. - Malachi 3:10-12

What About Holy Flesh! By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

"What about holy flesh!"

I'm sure you'll find this 'somewhat radical'; PERHAPS even blasphemous; but we need a radical understanding of being in Christ, with Christ being IN us, (as us).

I find until we learn to take 'no thought' as Jesus said we see with scales on our eyes; and we can't get things clear regardless of how hard we 'try'. But when we 'see through faith'- things open to us, (this is why FAITH is vital!). Faith cause us to accept things that don't necessarily 'at first' make sense to us. But spiritual things are spiritually discerned; and 'faith' is spiritual substance with the Spirit being the discerner in us. Certainly THIS would pertains to understanding the word FLESH. It is easy to 'see' sinful-flesh, and many are blinded by it; and see no farther!

But what about seeing HOLY flesh!

In the resurrection of Christ when The Lord appeared in the midst of His disciples, and at first they were terrified "thinking" they were seeing a spirit; - The Lord said to them, "Why are you troubled? And why do 'thoughts' arise in your hearts?" "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not 'FLESH AND BONES', as ye see me have........." (Luke 24:39). Then He asks for something to eat. I don't think there could be a better demonstration, or description of HOLY FLESH. But as in all things inner-recognition must occur.

I love the fact that every time the Resurrected Lord appeared to His disciples; it took them a few minutes for them to 'recognize' HIM. The disciples were not use to Resurrection Life, yet. On the beach when The LORD said; Have you any fish? Cast your nets on the other side of the boat! Once the fish were in the nets - THEN! (inner-recognition occurred), and they said; "It IS the LORD"! And He had breakfast ready for them; and out of the boat they came to dine with Him! I've gotten out of the boat of soul reasoning because I LIKE DINING WITH THE LORD!

Reasoning will NEVER let you ascend to higher ground! We can reason down to others, but not up to reality and spirit-Spirit union with Christ. SO as the disciples leaped out of the boat; we must 'leap' reasoning- BY faith.

Now the Resurrected Lord has A FLESH and BONE BODY! But what I wish you to see is yourself as you truly are IN Christ since you too have passed from death unto life. IN CHRIST- you died, you were buried, you were raised- IN CHRIST. IN Christ you have a flesh and bone body, right now, (minus the holes in 'your' hands and feet; and minus the blood as this pertains ONLY to earthly life). But we have a body like HIS, nevertheless, because we are NOT disembodied spirits. We ARE in Christ. So then IN CHRIST would your flesh be holy?

Are we not made whole in Christ? Is not this 'the reality' in the invisible? Reality IS invisible, (spirit), right now -when we are enabled to see through Christ eye in us it IS.

And the VISIBLE? Anything God lives in IS Holy! Even the 'old testament' Tabernacle had it's Holy of Holies. Anything God comes through is HOLY. How about that rock that Moses struck TWICE? But unless the scales come off our eyes we are as sleep-walker. Because even the ground around the burning bush was HOLY. How much more the dwelling place of the Son of God, and HIS INDWELLING HOLY SPIRIT! Know ye not that you ARE the temple of the LIVING GOD? And God has said, I will walk in you!

I am NOT saying 'we' have become the Holy ONE!

But when we really have a 'true perspective' of ourselves 'in' Christ, with Christ IN us, (as us), we are no longer being conformed to this world and the ways of it; but we ARE being transformed by the renewing of our MIND. YES, LITTLE BY LITTLE, but nevertheless we ARE transformed by Him who indwells us. I am glad God manifest Himself in 'our flesh' -...that makes OUR flesh holy for God.

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Forgive as God has forgiven you: By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

What I mean by 'this forgiveness' as stated in whatsoever you desire is when our desire is so deep in us for others that we are unable to even know (at first) what that desire is, but we travail in faith for Christ to be formed in others; yet we don't know we haven't forgiven all, because it's not a conscious unforgiveness; we only know the travail of Christ in us for Christ to be formed in others. That travail can be so deep and intense in us that we have no desire for anyone else to go through such suffering. By the Spirit of Christ in us He can take us to such depths with Christ that we declare we would not even want our enemies to endure such suffering; and THAT was (for me) the forgiving others as God has forgiven us. This is my understanding, through the Spirit and was God's reality in me for moving those bar of iron over others; and the Spirit moving me into the very moving of God Himself. SEE Mark 11:24-26

Galatians 2:20 - By Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

In Christ we not only died to the law, but we died to being a self-loving-self. . . we now are a self-for-others, for this is what Christ is, as us. A real person is one who dies for another. Nancy Fitzpatrick Gilmore

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